F: Can you tell me about the different places you’ve lived, Bill?
M: I grew up in a big city, New York, but I always thought I would want to live somewhere else.
F: And did you move?
M: I did. What finally drove me out New York was the traffic. I felt stuck in the city, like I was trapped. I’d always spent summers in the country — in Maine, in the woods, on a lake, and I felt free there, but I wasn't ready to be in the country full time, so for the next seven years we lived in a small town.
F: And was that better?
M: No, I never liked it. I moved back to New York because of my kids. I didn't want them cheering for different sports teams!
F: Do you feel better about life in the city now?
M: Well, I have my ups and downs. What bothers me most about the urban lifestyle is still the traffic. And the parking. Here's an example for you. One time my mothers was dropping my daughter off after taking her to play. This is just a law-abiding grandmother doing what normal grandmothers love to do, hanging out with her grandchildren and taking her to a show. OK, so she comes to drop my daughter off and of course there’s no parking. My mother is seventy-five, and she needs a little break, so despite not having a legal parking spot, she steps inside the house before driving another forty-five minutes home. She was in the house five minutes, and it cost her fifty dollars! She get a parking ticket! I mean, taking a grandchild to a show doesn’t cause stress in the suburbs. But in the big city it’s a big deal.
F: How does your wife feel?
M: Well, for my wife, it’s the dirt that bothers her.
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